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    Today, 05:51 PM
    @mjs513, Yep - I had the whole section commented out instead of just the part that was not complete to allocate memory... Trying to decide on how to do the string memory here as the string buffer stuff was put into...
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    Today, 03:29 PM
    @mjs513 - Yep I screwed up see previous post...
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    Today, 02:59 PM
    Maybe need to investigate: I am not crashing, but not seeing the rumble message either now... :o - I commented out the call that let the Joystick set the type of PS4... Oops, pushed up change to only comment out...
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    Today, 02:46 PM
    UPdate: I just pushed an update to github for e) At claim time, I now have a list of VID:PID (currently only one) that if it is this device, it goes ahead and claims it, even though the device type is not...
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    Today, 02:30 PM
    @mjs513 - Wonder if the sketch you had running? I assume it did a start on Serial1.begin with some baud rate... Here is the startup on mine this morning, with some additional stuff in trying to allow that dongle...
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    Today, 06:07 AM
    Mouse - stuff, I need to go through and/or make logic traces of how the drivers talk to the mice to set them up. I would assume pretty close to what the keyboard code does. Will look more in the morning. With...
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    Today, 02:23 AM
    I was sort of implying that maybe someone (i.e. you) will figure it out before I do ;) Forgot to mention, that I have now tried e) to have table of VID:PID to try to go ahead and claim. It claims, but I am not...
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    Today, 01:17 AM
    Hi @mjs513 and @defragster, As you have noticed I have not played yet with the BT mouse here. I probably should. My Logitech mouse can bind to three different Bluetooths, currently on my main computer and as I...
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    Yesterday, 10:57 PM
    Likewise some packages arrived at my mailbox this morning... Including my two new dongles arrived today. The one ZexMTE looks like another instance of the other ones I have: *** Device Bluet a12:1 - connected ***...
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    Yesterday, 09:03 PM
    @mjs513 - The check for which controller PS4 was inspired by the host shield 2 code that did the string compare... So decided to do the same thing. The first joystick message stuff can easily be removed, I was...
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    Yesterday, 05:14 PM
    Here is the updated version, see what you think?
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    Yesterday, 05:08 PM
    @mjs513 - PS4 - I am completely hacking (or unhacking the code) depending on how you look at it... I am removing all of the new PS4 functions... What I have done is to add a member function to BTHIDInput...
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    Yesterday, 01:32 PM
    Hi Mike and Defragster - was mostly busy yesterday with other stuff. I did try to rewire the Usb host 2 board to the T3.5 and the SPI on it did not want to talk at all. I also remember trying it with an Arduino mini...
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    02-18-2019, 05:14 PM
    One thing I noticed on the instructions: On the Teensy forum page: https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/53452-USB-Host-Shield-with-Teensy-3-2 It looks like they cut a trace on the board, which I did not do... Right now...
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    02-18-2019, 04:05 PM
    Hi Mike, I will include a hacked up version of the code, that outputs the majority of stuff to Serial1... I may have turned off the main library printing, but I think I have it turned on in Bluetooth stuff. May...
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    02-18-2019, 01:53 PM
    How should Bluetooth work on Teensy USBHost? @Paul, @defragster, @mjs513 and other: Once we hopefully figure out how to get these PS4 (and hopefully PS3) and the like working reasonably, I think we may then need to...
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    02-18-2019, 01:35 PM
    I should probably learn more about using the host shield 2... I never had it working with Teensy, but did have it working plugged into some AVR Arduino. I think I had it on a Mega... I suspect I am either missing...
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    02-18-2019, 01:31 PM
    Hope it turns out to be something simple. Like yesterday I did a quick and dirty change of a lot of the printing code int he library to use: #define USBHOST_PRINT_DEBUG #define USBHDBGSerial Serial1 And I did a...
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    02-18-2019, 04:49 AM
    The e0 specifies a device type of wireless. https://www.usb.org/defined-class-codes First is vendor specific. Under wireless you have sub codes... https://www.usb.org/defined-class-codes#anchor_BaseClassE0h
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    02-17-2019, 10:40 PM
    I have a couple more arriving in next few days: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J5WFPXX/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0775YF36R Will see what is happening, and use having good debug stuff would be...
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    02-17-2019, 10:29 PM
    For the most part SPI should be SPI... That is normally if you try to compile something with SPI library, it will hopefully get the right version... Again does the version of software up on the google drive work for...
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    02-17-2019, 08:22 PM
    What library are you starting from? That is do you have a working library you can point to for your display? It is easier to give more hints, when we have an idea of your starting point.
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    02-17-2019, 08:20 PM
    What is interesting is I have at least 4 dongles, but all of them appear to be the same one. 2 of them just have on side marking: CSR 4.0 or CSR V4.0, One just says H.Guard on the front of it. And one that came with...
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    02-17-2019, 04:36 PM
    Hi guys, Yep - the majority of the time, I have issues connecting as well some of the time it does connect, but most of the time not. Note: to see that joystick has connected as part of Bluetooth, the current...
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    02-17-2019, 02:09 PM
    Hi @defragster - With that joystick, hard to say what the mode button does? Maybe it changes the configuration of messages to something specific for some driver or???? As for Mouse - using the USBHOST_PRINT_DEBUG...
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    02-16-2019, 11:49 PM
    Yes setDataMode is depreciated... Why not just start off like: SPI.begin(); SPI.beginTransaction((SPISettings(500000, MSBFIRST, SPI_MODE3)); SPI.endTransaction();
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    02-16-2019, 10:36 PM
    I believe that the system will only take it into effect if you ask it to... That is when you do the SPI.beginTransaction(), with a configuration that sets it to that state. Alternatively you can I believe still do...
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    02-16-2019, 08:06 PM
    One thing I was noticing when using the Mouse.ino sketch. And the other one as well. When I have the code in to the bind... I notice: the debug output: USB Host Testing 960 *** Device Bluet a12:1 - connected...
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    02-16-2019, 01:06 AM
    I picked up my PS4 today :D Weather is warmer plus we ran up and down our road with our tractor, which helped break up some of the ice... Then went to town picked up stuff... And made it up our hill. Now trying to...
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    02-15-2019, 05:07 PM
    I think the version I have is the previous 5.0 document, looks like 5.1 is up there now: https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=457080 Download is from this page:...
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    02-15-2019, 04:21 PM
    Sounds great, but in the mean time wondering how difficult it would be to at least get some basic Serial.read() code to work... Maybe with just one fixed buffer or... Otherwise I will probably continue to do most of...
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    02-15-2019, 04:18 PM
    Thanks Paul - I normally had to hunt for it... Also again for other topic (bluetooth and the like), I also have to refer to the Bluetooth_Core document... I think that was part of some zip file... But I have a larger...
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    02-15-2019, 03:01 PM
    @mjs513 and @Paul - Yes there is a lot to try to understand as to get USB stuff to work. I have had to browse a lot of it over the last couple of years trying to help out on the usbhost_t36 code base. Will take a...
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    02-15-2019, 02:26 PM
    As you mentioned, it would be nice to know who uses what... But my guess is that it would be difficult to keep a reasonably accurate list. Especially if libraries are setup to allow programs to set it... Example with...
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    02-15-2019, 01:57 PM
    Yes HardwareSerial::peek() is implemented, which is very similar to the read function: int HardwareSerial::peek(void) { uint32_t head, tail; head = rx_buffer_head_; tail = rx_buffer_tail_; if (head == tail)...
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    02-14-2019, 10:14 PM
    Yep - I have had times when something was not working and found that the pogo pins had pushed the chip up and some were no longer making good connection. Looked some more at PS3 and stuff... Noticed that usb host...
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    02-14-2019, 06:27 PM
    Yep - I thought I would try changing the #if 0's to 1s... To see what it all needed... As you mentioned it requires usbmem.h/c, but again have not looked any deeper!
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    02-14-2019, 05:10 PM
    The Serial.read() code for Teensy4 would be in the files teensy4/usb_serial.c/h That is the Object is defined in usb_serial.h where for example the class is defined: class usb_serial_class : public Stream {...
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    02-14-2019, 03:23 PM
    I have had no luck getting Serial input on the USB on the T4... Typically it has just killed any program I have tried to run... Which is why at times I have converted the code over to run on Serial1 or Serial4, such...
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    02-14-2019, 01:52 PM
    Hi Mike, Off-topic... We went out yesterday and made it to town... But the private mailbox had not processed all of the packages that came in as they were closed the previous day as well... While we were heading...
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    02-13-2019, 09:52 PM
    USBHost - Follow up My Logitech K400+ arrived and it worked fine with the Mouse example program. This included both the keyboard and the touchpad. The PS4 controller is probably at mailbox, but was not out yet...
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    02-13-2019, 06:42 PM
    Thanks, I pulled it in... Hopefully the new controller will there today... We may brave it and see how bad the roads are
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    02-13-2019, 02:31 PM
    Is there anything connected to this Teensy? If so can you remove it? Example maybe GPS is plugged in wrong and shorting out... Did you solder on pins to it? If so check for shorts... Try something real basic. ...
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    02-13-2019, 03:02 AM
    Maybe move to the thread I opened awhile ago to talk about usb host and Bluetooth: https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/49358-T3-6-USB-Host-Bluetooth Obviously we need to put any T4 specific comments up on this thread. ...
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    02-13-2019, 02:43 AM
    I am not an expert here, but my 3 cent guess is that this display does not do what we would typically think of a normal SPI conversation... Instead I am thinking that there is 3 shift registers connected to each...
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    02-12-2019, 07:21 PM
    I would think the display you linked to should work... You would need to connect up pins 1-9, Note on LED, might need to tie to 3.3v or put on IO pin and change that IO pin to output and drive high. That is what I...
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    02-12-2019, 07:01 PM
    I am pretty sure mine is this one: https://www.buydisplay.com/default/lcd-3-5-inch-320x480-tft-display-module-optl-touch-screen-w-breakout-board But I actually purchased it from: https://www.ebay.com/itm/392220881268...
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    02-12-2019, 05:38 PM
    Could not see your AliExpress one... Need to login to get to it
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    02-12-2019, 04:52 PM
    For what it is worth: I just hooked it up to my T4... My connections are: Display-T4 1-GND, 2-+3.3v, 21-7, 23-10, 24-13, 25-9, 27-11, 28-12, 29-8 I updated the sketch a little to turn the LED on and to change...
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    02-12-2019, 02:33 PM
    @defragster, @mjs513 - As I mentioned, the display is working on my T3.6 using the library that we both mentioned... However so far it is not working with my edited version of Adafruit ili... The main difference is...
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    02-12-2019, 02:53 AM
    Side note: might be able to pick up an ILI9488 display quicker from Ameridroid... I may have one of these? https://ameridroid.com/products/3-5-inch-touchscreen-display-shield Have not found it yet, but...
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    02-12-2019, 02:48 AM
    Not sure, my link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/392220881268 And not sure if they have others... As I mentioned that I thought maybe I purchased the last one?
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    02-12-2019, 02:15 AM
    Looks like different units... as I mentioned, mine has 20 pin connector... So not sure how yours might be configured
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    02-12-2019, 01:09 AM
    Mike is yours the same one as mine is? If so I had to do some modifications to it... It came hardware configured for 3 wire SPI and I wanted 4 wire SPI... If you go to previous post... There was the page for the...
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    02-12-2019, 12:32 AM
    @defragster, @mjs513 - I have had it running on T3.6 with the library mentioned, also have it edited to build for T4... But wanted to try out ILI9341 library with the changes mentioned and nothing displays... I then...
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    02-11-2019, 07:14 PM
    Update: I started playing with this one. Changed the solder jumpers and removed a 0res to convert to 4 wire SPI... Found a library https://github.com/jaretburkett/ILI9488 Which has some Teensy support, but for...
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    02-11-2019, 06:53 PM
    Hi @WMXZ - the board has the USBHost adapter on it like the T3.6 has. With the last beta Teensyduino install (msg #2), @Paul was able to get the USBHost_T36 library to work... Some of us have verified that at least...
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    02-11-2019, 05:58 PM
    @Paul ... - Arduino with M7. I know that the Robotis has at least one board now with M7, the OpenCR1.0 http://emanual.robotis.com/docs/en/parts/controller/opencr10/ That uses an STM32F746ZGT6 / 32-bit ARM Cortex®-M7...
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    02-11-2019, 05:16 PM
    The question might be, is the 0x45 a hard coded something or is it from some other message returned from the controller or the like... Also not sure if you need to handle a response... Hopefully when I have one to...
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    02-11-2019, 02:48 PM
    As you mentioned looks like there may be differences. My DS4 won't be here until end of the week, so can not test anything yet. But also wondering with the experiments with: void sendL2CapCommand(uint8_t* data,...
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    02-11-2019, 01:59 PM
    PROGMEM ? I am getting sort of lost? I know I should probably re-read the last 10 or 20 pages in this thread, but what is it that we are trying to do defining PROGMEM to do something? To me in the past using...
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    02-11-2019, 12:06 AM
    @mjs513 - always fun debugging ;) Hopefully late this week will have new shiny (RED) PS4 controller to try it out... Note: I do look at different places for information, like the usb host 2 code as well as Linux...
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    02-10-2019, 09:40 PM
    @mjs513 - I did a hack to hopefully allow you to send off l2cap... I pushed up something that compiled... Probably completely wrong, but maybe along the right path?
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    02-10-2019, 08:07 PM
    Arrived early, and I made it into town this morning... So looking at the back of this board it appears like it was configured for 3 wire SPI and Capacitive touch... Wondering if I should try to reconfigure to 4 wire...
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    02-10-2019, 06:51 PM
    @mjs513 - I think that may be the right handle. What I was thinking of doing, maybe you can beat me to it, was maybe add a function like: sendL2CapCommand to the BTHIDINput class and make sure that this class is a...
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    02-10-2019, 04:17 PM
    @mjs513 - Need to look more at the back channel stuff. I noticed in the keyboard code for updating LEDS, that comment is there needing to setup back channel... Maybe need a public function either on bluetooth object...
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    02-10-2019, 02:50 PM
    The PS3 also used BT, but did not fully follow standards... So for a long time, you would run some modified version of code on the Bluetooth to work with it. Later in Bluez 5 support will added directly into the...
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    02-09-2019, 11:04 PM
    I say go for it. I have not done much here in a year, as very few people showed interest... So this will hopefully inspire some of us to get the BT stuff usable enough, that we can then get it merged into the...
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    02-09-2019, 06:55 PM
    @mjs513 - Wonder if it would make sense for me to make my branch use something like Serial4 instead of USB Serial for the debug code? I did this for some other code parts recently and made it a lot easier to debug as...
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    02-09-2019, 02:13 PM
    Looks like you are making some progress! My problem is that my PS4 controllers battery died again. I replaced it a year or so ago when it was dead then and would not charge... So trying to decide if to order a new...
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    02-09-2019, 03:57 AM
    Sounds great, been busy with some other stuff. Mostly with 4 legs wanting to play in snow.
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    02-08-2019, 09:53 PM
    Note with the EventResponder objects, There is a method called setContext, which allows you to save away a 32 bit value... So when I use it as part of some object (like my current hacking around with SSD1306_FlexIO...
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    02-08-2019, 09:31 PM
    My current stuff is up on github: https://github.com/KurtE/USBHost_t36/tree/WIP2-Bluetooth I have tried it with one of the dongles and the screwy keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JO80LVW Took a bit...
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    02-08-2019, 08:21 PM
    Hi @defragster. As I mentioned I tried a real simple mouse only program with my current merged code and it ran fine on T3.6 (beta board)... Then tried on T4 and did not work, but then tried unplugging everything,...
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    02-08-2019, 05:17 PM
    @mjs513 - I have tried the version you posted at the end of 1588 and so far with keyboard plugged in all I am seeing is: USB Host Testing 960 USB2 PLL running reset waited 5 USBHS_ASYNCLISTADDR = 0...
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    02-08-2019, 04:02 PM
    @mjs513, I may grab your version soon and try it... Right now I am trying a process of elimination... That is I tried commenting out code that create the BT list of objects, still dies. Tried making a few fixes...
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    02-08-2019, 01:37 PM
    Thanks, yesterday I also had Git try to do the merge. (Merge master into branch). It errored on two files, which I think I resolved, I then tried to build and found some other issues, which I fixed... I have also...
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    02-08-2019, 12:08 AM
    I have several ones I purchased over the years (mostly to do with Odroids and RPIs and ...) I think the last one I purchased was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076FP4KQD Some of the others I have...
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    02-07-2019, 10:21 PM
    KurtE replied to a thread New Scope in General Discussion
    I have debated with myself as well about getting a scope or not. So far I have been able to do most things like the Logic Analyzer (Saleae Pro 8), which does show analog values as well... Obviously more limited for...
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    02-07-2019, 09:55 PM
    FYI - I ordered one of the Logitech keyboard/trackpad units you mentioned... But see you have it basically working... Will talk more about USBHost and Bluetooth soon... Wondering if to continue to talk about it on...
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    02-07-2019, 12:06 AM
    Actually I have parts of the bluetooth working now... As mentioned in a few other threads like: https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/54587-USBHost_t36-working-with-PS4-gamepad-in-Teensy-3-6 and...
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    02-06-2019, 11:21 PM
    Some of those are probably beyond my pay grade :D ;) Also I am guessing that they are beyond my USB tracing hardware ability. I can do some with the Logic Pro, but only at the lower speeds, so works fine for things...
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    02-06-2019, 10:48 PM
    USBHost_t36 testing Thought I would do a change of pace and try out some of the pieces of the USB Host T3.6 ... So I am trying out a hacked up version of my SerialTest program. Hacked up as USB Serial still does...
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    02-06-2019, 09:09 PM
    SPI SPISettings - Inline does not appear to inline with current stuff... As I mentioned in previous post wondered if the current SPISettings was actually still making use of the inline stuff... The answer is no. ...
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    02-06-2019, 02:52 PM
    Display I must have gotten the last one they had local... I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it already shipped from California... Took a chance as the description page said: And I always hate the words...
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    02-06-2019, 01:57 AM
    Thought I would pickup something similar to play with... SO ordered this one on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/392220881268 Shipped today, ETA Monday...
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    02-06-2019, 01:28 AM
    Flex SPI - Transfer Issues As I mentioned in update of previous message, I fixed the overwrite by 1 error... As for the RX issue, I believe I know what is going on. If you for example: use the default settings. ...
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    02-05-2019, 10:17 PM
    @mjs513 - edit time limits... Maybe time to become a Senior Member+ group member ;) @Paul and other - Soon I will plug T4 back into Adapter board, so I can start playing with USB Host and Audio... But need all of...
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    02-05-2019, 09:32 PM
    It does not look like my display (mine is green ;) ) But other than that yes... I have another one that is blue that I have not tried yet on this setup... But it's lables are GND, VCC D0, D1, RES, DC, CS Which I am...
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